Thursday, April 22, 2010

Abortion and Rights... GAH

I have had some wonderful debates lately. And all of them center around two words. Reproductive Rights.

It's a hot issue. On a logical level, I can't really understand why. But on an emotional one? I get it. Abortion. The big bad. The BIG issue with so many people. You see it all the time. Innocent children being murdered! Sluts not keeping their legs closed and using it as birth control! Blah blah blah.

And it doesn't seem to matter what you say to those people. In some cases, they don't even care if you were raped or not. They don't care if it could kill you to carry to viability. The fact of the matter is, they place that fetus above you. You are nothing, just a vessel to carry that "innocent child".

Never mind that it doesn't have higher brain function until what, around 20 weeks? Never mind that the earliest a fetus has shown a pain response is 23 weeks. If someone thinks a child is alive at conception, FINE. Believe that. But stop pushing your agendas, and your beliefs, down my throat. Stop trying to tell me that I have to risk my health, my body, and my mental health for YOUR idealogy.

And this concept that men should be able to keep a woman from aborting? PUH-LEASE. What they seem to forget is that it is a two way street. If you want the father to be able to keep the mum from aborting, then what is to keep him from MAKING her get an abortion? If you allow one, then you have to allow the other.

And they just don't see that. ON PURPOSE. It's downright odd. Downright shameful. Humanity is downright stupid at times.

/end rant


  1. Yeah, I've noticed an overflow of those debates lately, which I've tried for the most part to avoid lately because of how heated they seem to be these days. Anyways, I basically agree with you and I've pretty much changed my stance regarding "daddy getting a say", unfortunately. In an ideal world...

  2. Ok, feel free to massacre me then... I think at the point of viability abortion is always wrong...this late term/partial birth stuff. Earlier than that... my personal belief is that once there is a heartbeat it is alive. Now, I am sympathetic in cases of medical necessity and rape/incest. Beyond that, if i believe something is alive, than to kill it is murder. I'm sorry I can't view it as "It's a woman's body and it's her choice" I view it as a life.
    I think generally speaking abortion is an abhorent thing, and while I don't think it should be outlawed completely I think maybe it should be....less accessible than what it is. And regardless of what anyone says...the women that I know that have gotten abortions do view it as another form of birth control and are... less careful than maybe they should be.

    On the men issue... I think it is unfair that a woman can abort a child without his consent, but if she then chooses to have the child he HAS to pay child support. WHy does the woman get to opt out of parenthood, but a man can't?

  3. @Caitlin Yeah, It's a difficult thing. I really do get that. I don't even mind CIVIL discourse about it. But when someone starts telling me what I should and should not do with my own body, I get agitated.

    @Kris - You're entitled to your beliefs about abortion, and I applaud you for having them. I'm not going to argue the rights and wrongs of it with you, because you will still believe what you wish to believe.

    The only thing that gets me is when someone with a belief tries to force that belief on others, in this case me. It bothers me that they think my body could just be a feeding tank for something that I did everything short of abstinence to prevent in the first place.

    And I've said many times that if men don't want to pay child support, they can give up all parental rights, and then they won't have to.